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The messy middle is a podcast that talks with creatives about the magic we make in the middle spaces and overcoming the obstacles that arise within. It offers both practical and inspirational conversations meant to inspire and motivate you.
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Apr 18, 2018

In this mini series past guest and friend Whitney Lawless and I are talking about Race.  How it effects our creativity, our relationships, and the work that we are doing in the world.  

Listen in as we share a bit about our Messy Middle process.

To Join in on the conversation please join The Messy Middle Facebook Group.  I would love to hear your thoughts on Race, or any questions you are struggling with yourself. 

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Emmergent Strategies 

Whitney Lawless Website

Messy Middle episode with Whitney Lawless

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